We’ll start thinking about it when shit eases up a bit, which we’ve been saying for more than a year now but it’s starting to look slightly more realistic that it will ease. It’s fucking hard especially when going back home to 's a giant pain in the ring, basically. NA: We’ll think about it when it begins to feel viable. GW: Obviously GUM is on tour with Tame Impala at the moment, does that mean you guys aren’t thinking about touring 9 in the near future? I’m glad you like that song, I actually quite like the lyrics to that song too. NA: Yeah, I think you’ve got it man that’s what happens. GW: Yeah, I can imagine with The Weather, especially on ‘The Edge of the World’: you’re so invested in the narrative of it that I imagine it's more than possible to write that without an instrumental for inspiration? NA: I used to do that a lot more, with Man It Feels Like Space Again, and I can’t really remember with The Weather or not, maybe actually with The Weather a little bit. GW: Do you write a lot of the lyrics separate to the music: I know a lot of previous Pond songs were initially ideas individual band members brought forward, do you have a notebook of lyrics you accumulate? I wrote the lyrics before we started doing the music, and of course all the things that went on before him getting his nickname all sort of flowed into something that makes sense. That was also something I picked up on after we had started recording it. Even from my end, something might start out with a fairly pointed meaning and then connections do happen, and even if they’re picked up by someone listening down the line it doesn’t make them false or anything. NA: Things move in mysterious ways and it’s never black and white. There’s plenty examples of words carrying multiple connotations and phrases often having overlapping meaning. GW: Having listened to your lyrics so carefully in the past, links between the Autobahn, Krautrock and Locomotive would be believable too. He’s got a very amazing, romantic, and inspiring story, and I wanted to write about it because he seemed like a badass and I really like him. NA: I was writing about Emil Zátopek, this long-distance runner from Czech Republic, and his nickname was the Czech Locomotive. GW: You said the Krautrock band Can were an influence on this album, particularly with the track ‘Czech Locomotive'. We could mate up, go down, have some tins, and have a lovely time. It was fortunate timing as we could kinda skulk down there and hang out once the personal paranoia had dried up. We just set it up and put all of our shit in there, then lockdown happened. NA: Yeah, we’ve actually just started hiring out a space: the Pond studio called Dreamdust. GW: Were you able to hire a studio space in lockdown? There was a little time last year where everything felt a little naughty, but then things started to chill out. NA: It happened naturally, really naturally. GW: One of the main things that intrigued me about 9 is how you guys went back to jamming as a method to spark ideas: did it feel quite natural to return to that way of creating music? Pond drop back into our lives with 'Pink Lunettes'
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